I think I speak for all of those who don't don't have wings and a tail...PLEASE don't let it be Searle. Mahanes would be a smart choice which would disqualify him from any decision PBA makes.
Mahanes would be a bad choice for president. He's a great man and I love him to death, but he's not the right man, believe me.
For one, he's too old; maybe if he was 15 years younger he'd be a good choice. Right now, he's about a year away from retiring himself. We need a longer term solution than this great man. Sad, but true.
Two, he's not experienced in raising money. A president shouldn't be all about the benjamins, but part of their job is to raise money for the school. He's got great church relations, but he wouldn't be able to build the business relations that our president would need to be able to do.
Three, he'd never do it. He knoes his own limitations and would never be interested in everything that a President needs to be. He's doing just fine where he is.
As for Searle, she's also got no expereince raising money and would also never do it. Not to mention, she's a woman. PBA would never go for hiring a woman as President, even if they were deserving.
My reply at the end of the Presidential search survey:
I have just a few comments as to my opinions on PBA, its areas of need, and how to go about changing them. Generally, our University suffers from an inability of many to understand, sympathize with, or allow themselves to be changed by opposing points of view. The university is polarized and embarking down a path where compromise is seen as a sin. I’m not suggesting that belief in an absolute truth or Christ-centered values be abandoned, but merely that we reclaim Christ’s examples of dialogue, and creativity during polarized and possibly verbally violent situations. The University’s first President Dr. Jess Moody displayed this example on many the occasion. At one point, when university takeovers on American campuses were commonplace, PBA itself fell victim to a student takeover. Members of the student government went into his office and demanded control of the University, at which point Dr. Moody threw the keys to the students and said “Ok, I’m leaving, I’ll be back on Monday. You need to raise 10,000 dollars by then or the University will not be able to remain open.” Such creativity in difficult, polarized situation is genius and exactly what Christian’s need to reclaim, especially at PBA, especially in a new University President. One of the things that repeatedly causes me anguish when I see it in this University is the sacrifice of the central teachings of Christ in bowing to fear under the guise of the principles (not necessarily Christian principles) of security and ultimately, fear. A good illustration of this is brilliantly illustrated by the most recent issue of one of the schools news sources, the Beacon. On the first page, there were two articles, the first was a report of the arrests associated with the visit of SoulForce, a gay activist group; the second was the possibility of PBA’s Safety and Security using guns in the future. Upon seeing both of these, I was quite honestly angry. I affirm that the Bible lists homosexuality as a sin and thus should be attempted to be rooted out of a Christian’s life, if it at all present; however, when a group of Christians oppresses another people group to the point where they have them arrested it is nothing short of blasphemy to the name and teachings of Christ. If the life of Jesus and his first followers are to be any example, Christians should be the ones being arrested and persecuted (or did Jesus not say to rejoice in persecution?) and not the other way around. I realize that the SoulForce members were arrested because they were trespassing, but to think that it is the only intent behind their arrest is dishonest. Do we who follow Christ really have anything to fear from any ideas? Is not all truth God’s truth and should not a Christian seek truth wherever it may be found? As far as the gun article, I will not comment on the issue of whether or not or when a Christian should ever use a gun to end someone’s life; but it perfectly illustrates how we as a University bow at the altar of Campus security. Jesus’ message was one of security in him and no one else. Jesus, after all, could very well have saved his own life and toppled the Roman Empire with legions of Angels and made the whole world very safe, but he chose to allow himself to be hung on a tree instead. Another side of the security issue is the lie of financial security. Now, money is useful at times, but we should not buy into the lie that we, as Christians need it, and a new president should not be so money focused. If we have the Holy Spirit within us, what more do we need? Too much focus is placed on money in the current administration. Additionally, a new president, if he is one who is a peacemaker and liked by the student body, alumni giving will increase greatly. Currently, most of the student body – myself included – is not likely to give much back to this school because though we believe in the written purpose of PBA, there is a deeper message and a deeper purpose now displayed in our school’s ranks rooted in the current administration: one of fear, and one that promotes seeking out the university’s goals no matter how many people are burned along the way. There are many things that should be sought in a new president - but ultimately a new president should be unapologetically like Christ: One who seeks peace and friendship with all, one who does not condemn, one who sacrifices himself for others, one who seeks out the truth and openly admits that they do not have life figured out, and one who most manifests the greatest commandments to love God and love his creations
"but it perfectly illustrates how we as a University bow at the altar of Campus security. Jesus' message was one of security in him and no one else."
I'll use this advice next time someone sneaks into my dorm. I'll just explain to the guy that wanders in to steal my laptop or my purse that I am trusting in Jesus for protection. Maybe he'll laugh so long and hard that security will have time to arrest him. Jesus is my protection from spiritual harm. God appointed certain human beings to protect the rest of us just like he appoints doctors and accountants and even lawyers. To think that security carrying guns is a bad thing is just plain stupidity. We had TWO armed robberies on campus last year. If there are people coming on campus with guns to rob people, security should have whatever they need and then some to protect us. Another thought, if security were ALREADY carrying guns, do you think we would have had those robberies last year? Criminals aren't stupid, not allowing security to effectively protect us IS.
You make some good points, but Jesus did not "seeks peace and friendship with all". He turned people away and he used a weapon in a place of worship. Does that sound like he was trying to make friends? He wasn't passing out flowers and begging people to follow him.
Fear - totally. The current regime uses it to get what they want and keep people in line. If I didn't know any better, I would think that this were a catholic university. At least they aren't holding my dead grandmother hostage in lieu of donations to PBA. At least not yet. [catholics, don't get bent - half my family is catholic and I went to a catholic school until 8th grade. It wasn't a shot at catholics, it was a shot at PBA's attempt to control people the way the medieval catholic church did]
Blue Falcon - By 'Fear' I mean a lack of ability to trust God with finances, or fear of 'dangerous ideas' to the point where honest discussion about them is impossible
Mary - thank you ;-)
ODP Propped Doors - In case you haven't realized how far down your throat your foot is yet, I'll point out to you that I never said that the SS SHOULDN'T carry guns - guns are in fact an idea I'm still wrestling with, but regardless, the fact remains that Jesus and all of his first followers (except John) were murdered without resistance - even when Peter picked up his sword to defend Jesus, he was told to put it down. I'm certainly not to the point where I can say I would not violently strike out to save my friends, but it seems to me that's what the first Christian's did. Is that a hard example to follow? Of course - one of the hardest. Jesus didn't we wouldn't be hurt when we follow him - he just said to follow him. It's hard, But It is what the scriptures say, and any serious follower of Christ should at least wrestle with the concept - I'm not to the point where I would follow that example in my life, but I hope one day I will be.
Anonymous - you're right, Jesus did have some problems with people not liking Him...But most of the feathers he ruffled were those of people who claimed to represent God but didn't. Even so, he still talked with the people and kept peace with them. As for Jesus making a weapon and using it in a place of worship... That is an entirely different thing - Jesus made a whip to cleanse the temple - to use to cast out the animals that were there being sold and turning worship of God into some kind of oppressive business venture. Jesus was, indeed, mad - very mad - at this point, but there's no indication that he hurt anyone, just turned a few tables...It's unlikely that the Jews would have nothing to bring against him to the Romans if he was in the Temple using a whip on people.
"To think that security carrying guns is a bad thing is just plain stupidity."
No, actually it's a very serious issue that merits a good level of debate. There are arguments on both sides, but it's certainly not an issue of one side being "stupid."
At FAU, a gun wielding security guard killed a student a couple of years ago. The situation could have been handled much differently, but the impulse to resort to armed defense caused very serious damage.
This is definitely not a debate of absolutes.
Consider the PBA student who was sprayed repeatedly with pepper spray because we was being too "emotional." The pepper spray used on this student was completely unmerited, but the security guard, who did not have years of experience, resorted to it quickly. I would hate to see a student seriously injured by other forms of defense.
Boy, I'm glad everybody stayed on the subject of finding a new president...that's a relief.
Regarding the subject of picking a new president (ahem!)...trustees.... all I've got to say is... please...nobody from Regent... please! We've got enough of those people around here, mucking everything up and taking over good jobs from true educators. Please, no more Regent rejects at PBA!
I think Mahanes would make an excellent VP, but not Prez. KM has the experience and knowledge and the right heart for PBA, but wisdom comes with age and we need a younger man. If we could only turn back the clock and make KM 45 again! We love you, Dr. Mahanes, but I think everybody is thinking more from the heart here, not so much from the head. On another subject, a part of any university president's job description is to raise money (while they lead and cast vision).
Would also love Dr. Mahanes as Pres but I'm pretty sure he would never take the job. As for the comments on him being too old... rubbish, the guy is 55 years young.
I hope all of you writing comments will take some time to actually complete the survey. The link the Bacon has provided really works and you can provide the search committee with your opinions.
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Funny, I was just talking with some fine gentlemen about this last night ;-)
Mahanes for Pres!
Aye! Mahanes for President!
Put him down on the survey!
Hey there, little bro.
Agreed!
I think Mahanes would be an excellent choice
I think I speak for all of those who don't don't have wings and a tail...PLEASE don't let it be Searle.
Mahanes would be a smart choice which would disqualify him from any decision PBA makes.
Mahanes would be a bad choice for president. He's a great man and I love him to death, but he's not the right man, believe me.
For one, he's too old; maybe if he was 15 years younger he'd be a good choice. Right now, he's about a year away from retiring himself. We need a longer term solution than this great man. Sad, but true.
Two, he's not experienced in raising money. A president shouldn't be all about the benjamins, but part of their job is to raise money for the school. He's got great church relations, but he wouldn't be able to build the business relations that our president would need to be able to do.
Three, he'd never do it. He knoes his own limitations and would never be interested in everything that a President needs to be. He's doing just fine where he is.
As for Searle, she's also got no expereince raising money and would also never do it. Not to mention, she's a woman. PBA would never go for hiring a woman as President, even if they were deserving.
My reply at the end of the Presidential search survey:
I have just a few comments as to my opinions on PBA, its areas of need, and how to go about changing them. Generally, our University suffers from an inability of many to understand, sympathize with, or allow themselves to be changed by opposing points of view. The university is polarized and embarking down a path where compromise is seen as a sin. I’m not suggesting that belief in an absolute truth or Christ-centered values be abandoned, but merely that we reclaim Christ’s examples of dialogue, and creativity during polarized and possibly verbally violent situations. The University’s first President Dr. Jess Moody displayed this example on many the occasion. At one point, when university takeovers on American campuses were commonplace, PBA itself fell victim to a student takeover. Members of the student government went into his office and demanded control of the University, at which point Dr. Moody threw the keys to the students and said “Ok, I’m leaving, I’ll be back on Monday. You need to raise 10,000 dollars by then or the University will not be able to remain open.” Such creativity in difficult, polarized situation is genius and exactly what Christian’s need to reclaim, especially at PBA, especially in a new University President.
One of the things that repeatedly causes me anguish when I see it in this University is the sacrifice of the central teachings of Christ in bowing to fear under the guise of the principles (not necessarily Christian principles) of security and ultimately, fear. A good illustration of this is brilliantly illustrated by the most recent issue of one of the schools news sources, the Beacon. On the first page, there were two articles, the first was a report of the arrests associated with the visit of SoulForce, a gay activist group; the second was the possibility of PBA’s Safety and Security using guns in the future. Upon seeing both of these, I was quite honestly angry. I affirm that the Bible lists homosexuality as a sin and thus should be attempted to be rooted out of a Christian’s life, if it at all present; however, when a group of Christians oppresses another people group to the point where they have them arrested it is nothing short of blasphemy to the name and teachings of Christ. If the life of Jesus and his first followers are to be any example, Christians should be the ones being arrested and persecuted (or did Jesus not say to rejoice in persecution?) and not the other way around.
I realize that the SoulForce members were arrested because they were trespassing, but to think that it is the only intent behind their arrest is dishonest. Do we who follow Christ really have anything to fear from any ideas? Is not all truth God’s truth and should not a Christian seek truth wherever it may be found? As far as the gun article, I will not comment on the issue of whether or not or when a Christian should ever use a gun to end someone’s life; but it perfectly illustrates how we as a University bow at the altar of Campus security. Jesus’ message was one of security in him and no one else. Jesus, after all, could very well have saved his own life and toppled the Roman Empire with legions of Angels and made the whole world very safe, but he chose to allow himself to be hung on a tree instead.
Another side of the security issue is the lie of financial security. Now, money is useful at times, but we should not buy into the lie that we, as Christians need it, and a new president should not be so money focused. If we have the Holy Spirit within us, what more do we need? Too much focus is placed on money in the current administration. Additionally, a new president, if he is one who is a peacemaker and liked by the student body, alumni giving will increase greatly. Currently, most of the student body – myself included – is not likely to give much back to this school because though we believe in the written purpose of PBA, there is a deeper message and a deeper purpose now displayed in our school’s ranks rooted in the current administration: one of fear, and one that promotes seeking out the university’s goals no matter how many people are burned along the way.
There are many things that should be sought in a new president - but ultimately a new president should be unapologetically like Christ: One who seeks peace and friendship with all, one who does not condemn, one who sacrifices himself for others, one who seeks out the truth and openly admits that they do not have life figured out, and one who most manifests the greatest commandments to love God and love his creations
What do you mean by "fear" on campus?
i accept the nomination for president
Well said, black falcon. I think your heart is in the right place.
Aye
"but it perfectly illustrates how we as a University bow at the altar of Campus security. Jesus' message was one of security in him and no one else."
I'll use this advice next time someone sneaks into my dorm. I'll just explain to the guy that wanders in to steal my laptop or my purse that I am trusting in Jesus for protection. Maybe he'll laugh so long and hard that security will have time to arrest him. Jesus is my protection from spiritual harm. God appointed certain human beings to protect the rest of us just like he appoints doctors and accountants and even lawyers. To think that security carrying guns is a bad thing is just plain stupidity. We had TWO armed robberies on campus last year. If there are people coming on campus with guns to rob people, security should have whatever they need and then some to protect us. Another thought, if security were ALREADY carrying guns, do you think we would have had those robberies last year? Criminals aren't stupid, not allowing security to effectively protect us IS.
You make some good points, but Jesus did not "seeks peace and friendship with all". He turned people away and he used a weapon in a place of worship. Does that sound like he was trying to make friends? He wasn't passing out flowers and begging people to follow him.
Fear - totally. The current regime uses it to get what they want and keep people in line. If I didn't know any better, I would think that this were a catholic university. At least they aren't holding my dead grandmother hostage in lieu of donations to PBA. At least not yet. [catholics, don't get bent - half my family is catholic and I went to a catholic school until 8th grade. It wasn't a shot at catholics, it was a shot at PBA's attempt to control people the way the medieval catholic church did]
Blue Falcon - By 'Fear' I mean a lack of ability to trust God with finances, or fear of 'dangerous ideas' to the point where honest discussion about them is impossible
Mary - thank you ;-)
ODP Propped Doors - In case you haven't realized how far down your throat your foot is yet, I'll point out to you that I never said that the SS SHOULDN'T carry guns - guns are in fact an idea I'm still wrestling with, but regardless, the fact remains that Jesus and all of his first followers (except John) were murdered without resistance - even when Peter picked up his sword to defend Jesus, he was told to put it down. I'm certainly not to the point where I can say I would not violently strike out to save my friends, but it seems to me that's what the first Christian's did. Is that a hard example to follow? Of course - one of the hardest. Jesus didn't we wouldn't be hurt when we follow him - he just said to follow him. It's hard, But It is what the scriptures say, and any serious follower of Christ should at least wrestle with the concept - I'm not to the point where I would follow that example in my life, but I hope one day I will be.
Anonymous - you're right, Jesus did have some problems with people not liking Him...But most of the feathers he ruffled were those of people who claimed to represent God but didn't. Even so, he still talked with the people and kept peace with them. As for Jesus making a weapon and using it in a place of worship... That is an entirely different thing - Jesus made a whip to cleanse the temple - to use to cast out the animals that were there being sold and turning worship of God into some kind of oppressive business venture. Jesus was, indeed, mad - very mad - at this point, but there's no indication that he hurt anyone, just turned a few tables...It's unlikely that the Jews would have nothing to bring against him to the Romans if he was in the Temple using a whip on people.
Dear Anon,
We have your dead grandmother. She is being held with the monkey. Please deposit 6 chapel credits into the PBA Indulgence Account.
Sincerely,
The Sailfish Inquisition
"To think that security carrying guns is a bad thing is just plain stupidity."
No, actually it's a very serious issue that merits a good level of debate. There are arguments on both sides, but it's certainly not an issue of one side being "stupid."
At FAU, a gun wielding security guard killed a student a couple of years ago. The situation could have been handled much differently, but the impulse to resort to armed defense caused very serious damage.
This is definitely not a debate of absolutes.
Consider the PBA student who was sprayed repeatedly with pepper spray because we was being too "emotional." The pepper spray used on this student was completely unmerited, but the security guard, who did not have years of experience, resorted to it quickly. I would hate to see a student seriously injured by other forms of defense.
This is a worthy discussion, indeed.
people always say things about the medieval catholic church, when it really wasn't that bad.
Boy, I'm glad everybody stayed on the subject of finding a new president...that's a relief.
Regarding the subject of picking a new president (ahem!)...trustees.... all I've got to say is...
please...nobody from Regent... please! We've got enough of those people around here, mucking everything up and taking over good jobs from true educators. Please, no more Regent rejects at PBA!
I think Mahanes would make an excellent VP, but not Prez. KM has the experience and knowledge and the right heart for PBA, but wisdom comes with age and we need a younger man. If we could only turn back the clock and make KM 45 again! We love you, Dr. Mahanes, but I think everybody is thinking more from the heart here, not so much from the head.
On another subject, a part of any university president's job description is to raise money (while they lead and cast vision).
Correction: Mahanes wouldn't make a good VP. He CURRENTLY IS A GREAT VP!
Ken Mahanes is already a vice president, and a darn good one.
http://www.pba.edu/faculty/all-faculty.cfm?id=41075
An analogy
Regent : PBA::
Neo-Cons : The United States
the next prez will need to fix the school of communications. cuz now it's broken.
it used to be great, but then it was dismantled.
thanks, humbles.
I nominate Chuck Norris.
Problem solved!
Norris would kick booty and make things right.
A good choice.
Would also love Dr. Mahanes as Pres but I'm pretty sure he would never take the job. As for the comments on him being too old... rubbish, the guy is 55 years young.
Jesus For President
haha, there's no way Mahanes is 55.
At heart, DEFINITELY...heck, if we're going there, I'd put him right around 22 years old.
Which would make him too young to be president.
Mahanes is too wise to be president.
I think that if you won't support Mahanes for President because he won't get picked, you're arguing a circle.
Mahanes for President.
I hope all of you writing comments will take some time to actually complete the survey. The link the Bacon has provided really works and you can provide the search committee with your opinions.
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