Comments on The Bacon: PBA's Most Reliable News Source: The beloved Dr. Mahanes will no longer be at PBA

To the anonymous above: What? You are a tool. To ...

2009-05-17T09:41:00.000-04:00

To the anonymous above:
What? You are a tool.

To the anonymous above him:
Same with Rod Sullivan.

You're all a bunch of brainwashed tools. Have a g...

2009-05-09T12:38:00.000-04:00

You're all a bunch of brainwashed tools.

Have a great day.

Jesus saves....

Jesus invests..

Jesus retires at 63

dr. mahanes recruited and retained countless stude...

2009-05-08T12:20:00.000-04:00

dr. mahanes recruited and retained countless students. he was worth millions of dollars to the school.

If you go to the facebook page it lists the tax fo...

2009-05-05T20:28:00.000-04:00

If you go to the facebook page it lists the tax forms for PBA over the past thre years. One of the things a University must do is disclose the salaries of the top five employees and it lists it there. Mahanes made more than Searle and supvises many less people, but that alone shouldn't justify the move. It is interesting though.

Mahanes is a nice man but never taught even one co...

2009-05-05T15:30:00.000-04:00

Mahanes is a nice man but never taught even one course. Obviously the administration feels resources have to go toward teaching faculty which benefit students directly. Makes sense to me as a student.

At Anonymous: How would you even have a clue what ...

2009-05-05T15:13:00.000-04:00

At Anonymous:
How would you even have a clue what Dr. Mahanes makes in comparison to Dr. Searle??? I'm calling bull@#$% on that statement.

Mahanes for President of PBA!

2009-05-04T22:30:00.000-04:00

Mahanes for President of PBA!

You're right. Tyrants deserve to be paid far more ...

2009-05-04T17:31:00.000-04:00

You're right. Tyrants deserve to be paid far more than that.

Dr. Mahanes makes 124,000 a year, and does a quart...

2009-05-04T17:21:00.000-04:00

Dr. Mahanes makes 124,000 a year, and does a quarter of the work Searle does, who makes 16,000 less than Mahanes.

This is heartbreaking. The number of comments on t...

2009-05-04T16:18:00.000-04:00

This is heartbreaking. The number of comments on this thread is emblematic of the impact Dr. Mahanes has had on this school.

Unfortunately, thousands of PBA students will never get to benefit from his wisdom and compassion.

And, as I asked on the Beacon Blog, what does it means when a Christian school cuts it's "Religious Life" department?

????

That's emblematic in itself.

It probably happened at the end of the year becaus...

2009-05-04T10:08:00.000-04:00

It probably happened at the end of the year because I doubt this move could be made without the approval of the Trustees. They just met a few weeks ago, approved it, and it took a week or two to finalize the details of the transition.

This is pure specualtion on my part, but think about it. He's a very connected man, there's no way the board didn't know about this or agree to it.

As far as candidates, it's a VERY secret process so I doubt anyone knows who are candidates and if anyone says names, I doubt they have any credibiity to do so. It kind of makes sense because some of the people they're looking at (I would guess) are in some very important positions and you don't want to cause waves by looking unless it actually comes about.

Mahanes for President!

2009-05-04T09:38:00.000-04:00

Mahanes for President!

Logic, You should check your posts for grammar be...

2009-05-04T08:43:00.000-04:00

Logic,

You should check your posts for grammar before calling people dumb.

Everyone else,

Please try to refrain from blame casting when you don't know all the details. The fact is, Dr. M is leaving. It's a very sad thing. I think he'd appreciate some encouragement in place of this bickering.

To a number of commentators here: Does anyone kno...

2009-05-04T07:21:00.000-04:00

To a number of commentators here:

Does anyone know why this happened at the END of the academic year, too late for Mahanes to make a move elsewhere?

Also, who are the leading candidates for PBA presidency? Who are the logical candidates?

KW- "Why is it ‘dumb’ to ‘threaten’ (It was not ac...

2009-05-03T21:40:00.000-04:00

KW-
"Why is it ‘dumb’ to ‘threaten’ (It was not actually a threat, but whatever) to not give PBA a dime?"

Thanks for proving my point as to the intelligence of PBA students. Do you know what a threat is? A threat is "an act of coercion wherein a negative consequence is proposed to elicit response." You told PBA that you won't give PBA any money in the future (negative consequence) unless they don't fire Mahanes(response).

You say no one made mention of him being let go because he was liked. Chew on this.

Anonymous # 3:
"Dear Teachers and PBA staff: Warning. Don't become popular with students. Don't love them back.Don't hang out with them or listen to their personal problems. Don't encourage their dreams. The moment you do, you'll be dismissed.
PBA students, don't convey love or affection for your favorite teachers or anyone on staff. Don't smile at them or spend much time with them. Somebody might be watching and taking notes."
Cause: People like teachers
Affect: Teachers get fired

Something you said earlier:
"I will remember people like Mahanes who take and interest in and invest in students for many years - PBA has a bad habit of scaring them away, and 'dissolving' them in a great show of messed up priorities(Just so you know you spelled priorities wrong, but I fixed it for you.)"
Cause: Professors actually care
Affect: Professors get disolved
(You should really pay attention to the things you said on here before you run your mouth)

Allison:
"if he was let go, he is yet another case of the students' favorite faculty/administrator's selectively asked to leave."

KW, You're a babbling fool. Answer my argument? What is worse as far as stewardship goes? Continuing to pay out more than you receive, or adjusting the budget and making necessary cuts to the budget. Also what is worse, cutting someone who can afford to lose their job, or cutting two people who can't. I am a big Mahanes fan, and have probably spent more time with him than you ever will. The truth is that as much as it sucks, it was necessary. We need to show him how much we appreciate him by giving him a heck of a going away party. How about instead of having a sit in, throw the man a going away party. I think people care more about being pissed at PBA, than they do about Dr. Mahanes.

Two more notes: First, I also wish Dr. Clark the ...

2009-05-03T18:35:00.000-04:00

Two more notes:

First, I also wish Dr. Clark the best as he retires this summer. Through my own limited interaction with him, he seemed personally a great man, even though I may disagree with some of his decisions.

Second, come on guys. Let's stop calling each other "idiots" and such. You're too old to be this immature.

This is a tricky situation because I do not know t...

2009-05-03T18:28:00.000-04:00

This is a tricky situation because I do not know the full background behind this little bit of turnover. And (if I may be so vain), I'm one of the very few to admit this.

If Dr. Mahanes' position was superfluous, if he could not have been utilized at a different position, if he is most gifted as a minister rather than as a University leader, PBA is justified. If otherwise, then this situation could have been handled more effectively. However, I do not know what went through the minds of the people who made this decision so I cannot pass judgment.

Though I never met Dr. Mahanes, much less took a class with him, I can only go by the words of those who love and praise him, numbering much more than a few. I'm sure we all wish him the best of luck as he moves on, possibly focusing on leading the church at which he is already involved.

As an alumnus who gave back all three dollars received at graduation, I want to see my alma mater succeed and I refuse to disown her and threaten to withhold any future donations. This just seems like a Limbaugh-like hope for failure. Do I want the University to retain its best faculty and staff and to hire people who would build up an institution with a reputation for academic excellence? Of course. I can only hope the new leadership taking effect this summer will help fulfill these wishes.

"Logic," you're an idiot.

2009-05-03T18:15:00.000-04:00

"Logic," you're an idiot.

That’s a pretty sweeping generalization you just m...

2009-05-03T17:46:00.000-04:00

That’s a pretty sweeping generalization you just made there, ‘Logic’ – You said most PBA Kids are dumb? Do you know even half? I seriously doubt it. As for alumni giving,…Let me rehash what you said for you – “As far as threatening not to give PBA a dime after you're gone, If you're that dumb than I don't think you'll have any dimes to give.” You managed to piss off a whole sentence without actually making a point. Why is it ‘dumb’ to ‘threaten’ (It was not actually a threat, but whatever) to not give PBA a dime? I think it’s entirely valid to let the University that they will not be trusted with my future funds because they have proved untrustworthy.
And I don’t recall anyone saying Mahanes is being let go because the students love him – It has however been argued that he should not be let go because he is well liked… Try not to confuse the two, I know it may be tough – kind of like forming paragraphs. The bottom line is PBA as a Christian university should not submit to money or lack thereof.
Stop romanticizing life, you say? Great! We’ll all just become like you and throw up our hands because nothing can be done, and become bitter and jaded and cry ‘woe is me’. No thanks – because it is far better to see the world as it should be and not as it is, because the people who do that are the people who have the creativity and imagination to make things as they should be. Maybe we won’t be able to save Mahanes’ job at PBA; but I’ll be dam*ed if something like this happens and I don’t speak up about it.

Later,
KW

PS …Amen to the anonymous 1 up…

If we're not allowed to romanticize life, then lif...

2009-05-03T15:55:00.000-04:00

If we're not allowed to romanticize life, then life's not at all worth living.

You have a good and valid point, but you're an asshole, so no one will listen to you.

Seeing how dumb most PBA students are makes me wis...

2009-05-03T15:21:00.000-04:00

Seeing how dumb most PBA students are makes me wish I wasn't a PBA student. People complaining about buildings being built. Buildings being built comes from a completely different budget than paying professors and administrators. EVERY DIME SPENT ON A BUILDING COMES FROM DONORS WHO WANT TO DONATE TO A SPECIFIC BUILDING PROJECT. As far as threatening not to give PBA a dime after you're gone, If you're that dumb than I don't think you'll have any dimes to give. Are you really that dense to think that PBA is getting rid of Mahanes because people love him? If that were the case Dr. Stan, who in many situations has been a sore in PBA's side, would be gone. Neil and Susie Best would be gone. Vince and Michelle Diller would be gone. Tyler Hamilton would be gone. Jeff Timmer would be gone. Dr. Lovejoy would be long gone. Cindy Lamerson would be gone. Dave Bates would be gone. Dr. Byrd would be gone. Mark Kaprive would be gone. Nobody cried foul play when any of the other positions were resolved. PBA is a business, and in economic troubles, sometimes jobs have to be cut. Our neighbors, First Baptist, have made 14 cuts from their staff in the last year for budget reasons. It's sad that he's going. But it is necessary. He is one of the higher paid people at PBA, and of those higher paid people, Dr. Mahanes is the easiest to get rid of. His position doesn't exist at most Christian universities. Sure they could have gotten rid of Dr. Kloba, but he is responsible for 100's of Professors. They could have gotten rid of the VP of Development, but then who would run the business side of the school? They could have gotten rid of Searle, but she runs Res Life, Student Accountability, Student Leadership and Involvement, Student Success Center, Career Services, Admissions, Health and Wellness, and who knows what else. The only other option was to get rid of some lower level positions. Would you rather PBA get rid of 2 or 3 more lower level positions? Would that make you feel better if two people who had families with children were let go of to save Dr. Mahanes' job, who has another income from a church with nothing but wealthy members? In the perfect world no one loses jobs, but in America people are losing jobs every day as a result of the economic troubles that Bush and Obama have put us in. Stop romanticizing life, and get over yourselves. It's part of life. His being let go, if that's even what happened, had nothing to do with students liking him. It had everything to do with the fact that PBA is paying more out than they are receiving right now.

To the anoymous 7 up - all of your professors only...

2009-05-03T11:05:00.000-04:00

To the anoymous 7 up - all of your professors only work 7/12 months as well. It's called winter and summer break.

And to any PBA admin people out there: If Mahanes goes, not a cent of my future income will go to this institution - It will go to someplace that doesn't bury its talents in the ground (pun intended.)
Anybody else with me on that? Apparently all PBA cares about is money, so if a good number of students say they won't give anything in the future to PBA if Mahanes goes; it might ruffle some proverbial feathers.

LAter,

KW

I'm sorry if this post is backtracking too much, I...

2009-05-03T10:19:00.000-04:00

I'm sorry if this post is backtracking too much, I just wanted to quickly say that, yes, I have in fact had conversations with Dr. Clark, most notably:
[sort of interrupting a conversation I was having in the caf]
Clark: What do you think of the new library?
Me: Oh, hi! Well, I think it's appearance is a lot better than the old--
Cut off early as Dr. Clark walks away, without having said hello not to mention goodbye, nor other pleasantries that might indicate an actual interest in the campus's students. I'm sure that many similar experiences could be shared by the student body on the whole, as well as from students who have even had Communications classes with him. There are a small number of people who might have had different experiences with him, but I am certainly under the impression that he has done little to nothing to better "reach out." He hasn't even needed to actively reach out, he's just needed to seem like less of an educrat.

Dr. Mahanes wouldn't want to be President. They'v...

2009-05-02T16:48:00.000-04:00

Dr. Mahanes wouldn't want to be President. They've gone that route before.

Who are the strong candidates for PBA president? ...

2009-05-02T16:26:00.000-04:00

Who are the strong candidates for PBA president?

Answer that question and then consider this action.

Are they connected? How would anyone know without information?