Comments on The Bacon: PBA's Most Reliable News Source: Website sparks uproar, cries of FML

I don't think you're using the word "liberal" corr...

2009-04-06T11:06:00.000-04:00

I don't think you're using the word "liberal" correctly here, holla back. My definition of a liberal is someone fighting for progressive rights. Dictionary.com agrees.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberal

Someone who is "most liberal" would not necessarily be a base person engaging in the activities he or she thinks should be free. For example, someone arguing for the ease of drinking rules would want 21-year-olds to have the right to drink alcohol as the law permits, or possibly want to lower the drinking age. Drunks are drunks but that doesn't put them in the same category as someone fighting for others' rights. Chris Moody has a great article/link in his blog.

http://csmoody.wordpress.com/2009/03/30/greenwald-on-drug-decriminalization/

I think what Hi! was trying to say is that PBA is a largely conservative school which would attract a conservative student body and repel more liberal students who would rather have the freedoms enjoyed at public university (and thus don't come here). Thus there is little resistance to the existing rules.

I personally entered the school as a staunch conservative but my views became much more liberal as I gained scholarly knowledge and my mind opened. I thank the professors at PBA (especially those in the Honors Program) who encouraged me to think for myself and find objective truth rather than repeating the thoughts of old.

"It's also no secret that PBA doesn't attract the ...

2009-04-05T23:27:00.000-04:00

"It's also no secret that PBA doesn't attract the most liberal and outspoken of minds in the student body"

Let us analyze this statement:

First, we must determine the meaning of the word "liberal." Because it is used when speaking of the rules of the institution, we must determine who would be the "most liberal."

With drinking rules, it would be drunks. With drug rules, it would be addicts. With sex rules, it would be sluts and prostitutes. Cream of the crop.

Since PBA doesn't attract these fine people, it must attract more moderate and modest people. Why would those who follow the rules be outspoken against them?

"In the student body." ¿Qué?

PBA attracts the finest people: those who are able to focus on studying rather than all that other stuff.

CfWE, will you marry me?

2009-04-03T12:06:00.000-04:00

CfWE, will you marry me?

Hi!- You totally had the whole smart thing going u...

2009-04-03T00:36:00.000-04:00

Hi!- You totally had the whole smart thing going until you forgot a word. Then you totally lost it and it became nothing but a bunch of big words combined to make a lovely puddle of incoherency. I quote you... "The fact that you are reduced to making ad hominem comments is indicative (insert the word 'of' here) your intelligence..." The ability to use big words is arbitrary, unless the proper small words separate them. Sorry I had to.

holla,Sour grapes? You should really expand your v...

2009-04-01T22:53:00.000-04:00

holla,

Sour grapes?

You should really expand your vocabulary, planning on taking the GRE exam anytime soon? Probably not...

The fact that you are reduced to making ad hominem comments is indicative your intelligence... You SHOULD NOT be labeling anyone as "ignorant" or "stupid" considering you don't personally know them. You certainly appear "ignorant" making such comments!

Don't like what I have to say? Be a big boy (or girl) and address specific points of contention; I will enthusiastically address them. Inferring from your past comment, I doubt you possess the brass or acumen to hold up your end of the bargain, sadly.

Hi!, you are stupid and ignorant.

2009-04-01T13:28:00.000-04:00

Hi!, you are stupid and ignorant.

You don't really attend PBA for the typical colleg...

2009-03-31T21:57:00.000-04:00

You don't really attend PBA for the typical college experience; it would be a BIG mistake to assume many of the same freedoms enjoyed by students attending other public and private universities extend to PBA's campus. Be sure to read the fine print (because most 18 year-olds do that) and be cognizant of the reality that underlies Christian universities of "higher learning;" they have the power to enact and enforce ridiculous policies because you signed a contract :(

As for leaving PBA and dying to come back, that would probably only happen if you transferred to Bob Jones University! For those students who are dissatisfied enough to pack up and leave in the first place, I would not be inclined to hold my breath, they're not coming back anytime soon!

The majority of students don't want to have certain rules changed??? Perhaps that statement should be modified, "the majority of students are too apathetic to make a big enough fuss to get the rules changed."

It's also no secret that PBA doesn't attract the most liberal and outspoken of minds in the student body; the fact there exists so little resistance to unfavorable policies is not surprising in the least.

Dear Anonymous with the CAPITAL LETTERS,PBA has ch...

2009-03-28T16:18:00.000-04:00

Dear Anonymous with the CAPITAL LETTERS,

PBA has changed many of its rules during the past 40 years.

THEREFORE, it is totally legit to discuss what should stay the same at PBA, and what should change, DESPITE the contract we signed.

And no, I am not in favor of FML.
So don't respond with a bunch of ANGRY CAPITAL LETTERS.

You guys, this is what the article is making fun o...

2009-03-28T12:52:00.000-04:00

You guys, this is what the article is making fun of. It's ridiculous that students are so upset about a stupid website being blocked. No one's going to leave because they can't read it (even though [SPOILERS] we can).

You all need to calm down and just bask in the irony of that first sentence.

It's not a freedom of speech issue. Say whatever ...

2009-03-28T11:55:00.000-04:00

It's not a freedom of speech issue. Say whatever the heck you want to say, just follow the contract that YOU SIGNED! That's right. We're adults and we signed LEGALLY BINDING contracts to follow the guidelines that PBA set in place for us. The majority of the student body doesn't want our rules to change. So if you don't want to change to meet the rules, of the contract that you again, legally signed, then leave.

"Freedom of speech" can and should be restricted b...

2009-03-28T10:30:00.000-04:00

"Freedom of speech" can and should be restricted by private institutions (eg. PBA).

In addition, blocking FML has nothing to do with freedom of speech. It falls under the category of freedom to complain.

Anonymous two above me, you're sounding a bit like...

2009-03-27T17:35:00.000-04:00

Anonymous two above me, you're sounding a bit like our very own student government president at the Socratic Club's inaugural student debate. "If you don't like the rules, then leave."

Good job totally missing the point of the article, guys. Good job.

Does this mean I can skip my Freedom in American S...

2009-03-27T09:12:00.000-04:00

Does this mean I can skip my Freedom in American Society class on Monday?...cuz I'm starting to see some contradiction between what I'm learning and what I'm seeing...

PBA Students are ridiculous. PBA isn't going to c...

2009-03-27T01:38:00.000-04:00

PBA Students are ridiculous. PBA isn't going to change. If you don't like it then leave. The reason it is blocked, is that there are things on there that go against the mission and values of PBA. If you don't like the values go to a different Christian school. You'll be running back here in a heart beat.

Maybe a bass guitar, Huckabee?

2009-03-26T19:12:00.000-04:00

Maybe a bass guitar, Huckabee?

If you have time for FML, then you have no life.Ge...

2009-03-26T16:41:00.000-04:00

If you have time for FML, then you have no life.

Get a life, folks.

Go fishing. Read a good book. Play guitar.

Just for clarification, I wasn't saying that PBA s...

2009-03-26T00:58:00.000-04:00

Just for clarification, I wasn't saying that PBA shouldn't block pornography. I was trying to get at what Alum said, basically.

The "if you'd say it in the classroom..." thing do...

2009-03-25T21:26:00.000-04:00

The "if you'd say it in the classroom..." thing doesn't make as much sense.

If someone was studying mass popular culture, then blocking popular sites wouldn't help very much.

FML is not the only thing being blocked. Sorry for...

2009-03-25T15:26:00.000-04:00

FML is not the only thing being blocked. Sorry for not being clear...I wasn't referring to it specifically.

Dodd, are you really saying that FML is political ...

2009-03-25T14:22:00.000-04:00

Dodd, are you really saying that FML is political speech? It is at best a off-colour humor website, and at worst pretty raunchy. If a student wouldn't feel comfortable saying it or reading it in a classroom, is it really a violation of our "institute of higher learning" if you can't read it on campus?

you're right. the purpose of the article was to po...

2009-03-25T13:34:00.000-04:00

you're right. the purpose of the article was to poke fun at outrage over FML.

But it strikes a deeper issue: why the school insists on blocking political speech they don't agree with.

This isn't how it always was. There was a time when only pornography was blocked, but in the past few years, they bumped it up to speech.

Hopefully the school will regain their senses soon, but it's going to take a movement of students who demand change.

Sadly, organizing college students around a principle cause is never easy.

While the power of websense is ridiculous I think ...

2009-03-25T12:58:00.000-04:00

While the power of websense is ridiculous I think that this article is kind of poking fun at the people who really think that not being able to read FML is the worst free speach violation ever. But I do agree with the person who just wants to block porn and file sharing.

Websense once blocked Yahoo! for a half hour or so...

2009-03-25T12:23:00.000-04:00

Websense once blocked Yahoo! for a half hour or so while I was on campus. I know it was probably a mistake, but if you have the power to block a site like that then WTF is going on?

It's not arbitrary. Granted, it filters based on t...

2009-03-25T00:34:00.000-04:00

It's not arbitrary. Granted, it filters based on topic, but they choose to filter unnecessary topics.

PBA should block pornography and file sharing sites that could lead to lawsuits. That's it.

Anything more is a disgrace as an institution of higher learning.

Don't get me wrong; it's hilarious. I don't think,...

2009-03-24T20:38:00.000-04:00

Don't get me wrong; it's hilarious. I don't think, however, that all of them are necessarily appropriate for the public.

As for censorship, that's ridiculous. Websense is basically an arbitrary filter controlled by whoever has access. As we discovered quite a while ago, there's even an option to block "News."